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Mass protest happening now in guizhou over the murder of a 15 years old girl by her classmates.
All the CHINA mainland major web sites were ordered net to report on the murder,as well as the protest,during which police building were burned down.
On http://www.tianya.cn,I come across this tool developed by http://www.9van.com,which can help blogger to prevent being censored by automatic censor software.
Anyone here wish to try it out? It is free anyway.
All these blogs were from http://www.tianya.cn bbs.
The great fire wall of CHINA is being broken,at least for the moment,there are tons of anti-government blogs,many of them are of top quality writing.You have to be able to read CHINESE,of course.
Of all the 200 millions plus Chinese netizens,from all those blogs appear on http://www.people.com,www xinhua.com,www.tianya.cn,I can say,majority of Chinese netizens are angry at the government’s handling of QUIZHOU massive(100,000 people plus)protest,over the death of a 15 years old student alleged suicide.
All the Hong kong major media,including TV,radio stations,Singapore media(www.zaobao.com),Taiwan media,all give very fair and clear report,claiming that it was a murder,cover up by local police.
Now all the mainland CHINESE media,either keep silence,or simply follow official line,saying it was suicide,without any investigation.WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY.
Mainland CHINESE media,is dead.
By the way,youtube has many on the spot video,shot by handphone.From those video one can see that nearly all the protesters are young high school students.
I think this is the first time ever,even through out the whole world,protesting students burn down government building.It takes a lot of gut,and determination to do so.
I srongly suggest John Kennedy to open another forum on Quizhou students protest,because majority of 200 millions plus of Chinese netizens are on STUDENT’S side.For the first time,Chinese netizens show their true color.
THIS IS THE HISTORICAL MOMENT FOR CHINESE NETIZENS.
ali baba:
Riots of middle school students shocked Chinese leaders
By http://www.boxun.com
Jun 30, 2008 - 7:05:54 PM
WengAn, Guizhou, middle school students set police cars and government buildings on fire after their school girl classmate being raped and murdered. Ten of thousands of people supported these teenagers by showing up on the scene or participating in the protest on June 28. The riots shocked Chinese leaders.
Li Shufen, girl aged 15, Junior 2 top student, Weng’an County No.3 Middle School was raped and murdered on June 21. On the evening of June 21, 2008, Wang Jiaojiao, together with two of her cousins, took Li shufen outside. Li was raped and murdered with her body tossed into the West Gate River. At about 11 pm., Li’s elder brother called the police. Police came to the site but refused to recover the body for the reason of no tools at hand. Hearing it, Li’s uncle, a teacher at Yuhua middle school came up and pulled out the body with tools borrowed from the landlord. Witness said tissue papers and condoms were found and blood everywhere. The murderers(both are 17 years old kids) were caught but released a day later because they are children of the local officials.
Li’s uncle was taken away by the police and forced to admit that the body was recovered by the fire fighters or the police. Yet he refused. The police beat him firecely and kicked him out of the office. Not far from the police office, Liu’s uncle was savagely attacked by gangsters (said to be hired by the police)with steel pipe and steel ball. He died at 3 am. on June 29 in hospital . Li’s aunt went to the police’s to argue but was seriously wounded by the police and detained since..
Students at the school where Liu’s uncle teached were enraged by the brutality of the police. They gethered and protested in front of the government building. However, the government made no reply, instead, ordered the police to attack the students. Four to five students were so badly injured that they suffered cerebral concussion and broken limbs. The public security authorities threatened that whoever dare to complain would be arrested, quoted as “even the Chinese president Hu Jintao wouldn’t help here.” The cover-up by the police and their arrogant further exasperated the students. They burnt down the ground floor of the public security bureau and destroyed police cars which gained overwhelming support from crowds(100,000 or more people) in the county. Instantly thousands of people gathered in front of the government building.Tension increased, the students torched the government building during the night,and using fire crackers and fireworks to attack the police.To the credit of the police,they did not shoot at any student (may be they were afraid to be lynched by the mob if they did shoot back) Demonstrators confronted the government until 5 a.m on June 29. After the majority of the crowd dispersed, police caught dozens of students, forced them to kneel down and violently beat them up,causing some deaths and bodies being removed.
On the morning, June 29, police blocked all access to government buildings. A student was knocked down and killed.
From June 21 until June 29, the family of Li Shufen kept her body in a steel coffin filled with ice. Her father went to the provincial government to report the case,never returned and went missing.Mother was so shocked by losing the only child she become mentally and emotionally unstable. The authorities tried to force the victim’s family to bury the body,without any success,so they tried to steal it ,but failed again because common citizens are guarding it. Outraged students and villagers gathered thousands of signatures and donated about 80,000 Chinese Yuan which was robbed and then burnt by the police. Investigators from the state government were obstructed on the way and local journalists attempting to report the incident were beaten up. Under public pressure, legal medical experts were finally allowed to carry out an autopsy. The victim was found drugged before she died,and found no water neither in the lung or stomach. On June 28, the whole county was cut off and lost contact with the outside world. It was said some provincial-level personnel got the news soon but was prevented to investigate the case because one deputy chief of the provincial department of public security was an uncle to the murderer.
With the situation deteriorating, the authorities gathered riot police and paramilitary police from nearby counties and cities (including a division troop from Kunming Military Area ) to crackdown the demonstrators,which are mainly 13 to 15 high school students.Watching all those video available on youtube,this fact is very apparent. Provincial officials came to look into it and Xinhua News Agency began to cover it.Now ,why for so many days,between 21-June,and 27-June,the whole of Chinese media,TV,radio,newspapers,remained silent? Nevertheless, the ongoing chaos and darkness continues. On the morning, June 29, the government declared it to be an illegitimate riot as “Attacking, Crushing, Looting & Burning” .And on 1-July,a press conference given by the government stated that Li Shufen commited suicide.And no facts,no evidence of suicide was presented.
One question the government,cannot,and will not answer is”Yes,it is a riot by the students,but why it was not prevented from happening in the first place?”
Question no 2:What had the police done wrong,so much so that 13 to 15 years old kids would go to burn down police buildings,and with 100,000 strong ordinary citizens stand behind them,risking their own life,knowing in CHINA,if anyone dare to attack police,the consequence is either death or life imprisonment.
CNN,BBC,where are you when CHINA needed you most?
Readers,please tell me,100,000 or more people go to the street,watching 13 to 15 years old kids burning government buildings and cars,without damaging any other property,is this a riot,or a revolution?
You tell me.
ali baba:
子曰：巧言令色，鲜仁矣。
Literally, 巧言令色 translates clever colorful speach.
Confucius demanded his students to achieve good conducts,with decent,honest,frank behaviour.What students have said,must folow up with relevent actions.Than students have achieve 仁.
In any society,when majority of the population is 仁人,than a good and prosperous nation is at hand.During CHINA’s ancient times,prior to the invasion and conquer of the Mongols and the Manchus(both are barbarians when compared to the Han),CHINA was epic center of Asia,with Japan,Korea sending students to China to learn from her,especially Confucius teaching.The end result is very apparent.Asian nations that combine Confucius teaching with western democracy have become very successful,and since join the modern and advance international community.
On the contrary to仁人 is小人.Literally,it means small man,half-grown man,or subhuman.小人 is to be despised at,to be avoided,to be shuned,because they create havoc,create war,causing nation to collapse,to 亡国.
Confucious’s life long devotion is to turn human into 仁人,full human,not小人.
Readers Mengzi and seeinginsea,being students of Confucius,perhaps we may ask our beloved premier Wen jia-bao a humble question: how many of his government’s officials can be called 仁人,and how many can be called 小人=people to be spat at,to be shuned,to be avoided,to be afraid of,to be called goons and thugs.
Do you think Premier Wen jia-bao may join us for an on-line discussion?
After all Chairman Hu jin-tao did go on-line at http://www.people.com.
ali baba:
孔子曰：“益者三友，损者三友。，友直，友谅，友多闻，益矣。友便辟，友善柔，友便侫，损矣。”
Confucius said:There are three kinds of friends,who can be good friends.
(1)People that are righteous, both talk and act straight.
(2)People that are honest and trustworthy
(3)People that are knowledgable,i.e. high iq
There are also three kinds of friends who will do you harm,these are to be avoided,
(1) People who are tricky,try to take short cuts,like joining black society,
or doing evil things to make fast bucks
(2)People who use all kind of disguises,and often change the disguises,to
deceive and cheat honest and innocent people
(2) People who use all kind of flowerily talks,tricky words,to cheat on
Vulnerable and defenceless people.
Readers seeinginsea,mengzi,and john(john kennedy?),the above Confucius teaching,is currently being taught in Chinese language high schools throughout Asian countries,excluding China.Communist China school kids are taught how to hate,and smash,class enemy,how to be an informer,to betray on family and friends,some time even on their own parents.
Since I have ask a humble question before,I like to ask beloved Premier Wen jia-bao again:How many of your government’s officials belong to the first three,how many belong to the second three?
My reply to john(Kennedy?):I am not a joker,nor a naysayers.Chinese netizens do not need outside anti-china loons to tell them what to do.59 years of Marxist lenin teaching,instead of classical Confucius teaching,is enough “to instill illogical and irrational behaviour to young netizens”
Since your post was directed at me,john,may I ask you a humble question too:Do you belong to the Confucius saying’s first three,or the second three?
ali baba:
君子求诸己，小人求诸人
君子 is the goal that Confucius set for all his students to achieve.There is no equivalent word for it in English,Gentleman is not quite near enough,”person with noble character and integrity” is OK,yet awkward.For the time being,I choose Perfect Man.Readers,any suggestions?
Confucius wanted his students to be near perfect in the ways they live,and the ways they interact with other human beings.Not only students have to be honest,compassionate,straight forward,loyal,(all the goodies you can think of) they have to be the role model of the society too
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Now 君子求诸己,Perfect Man,to achieve perfect status,he need to analyse,critise,and demand himself,to find out what is wrong with himself,than change for the better.
小人求诸人.Now this is easier. 小人,is the opposite to Perfect Man;a ‘small man”,a low life,no moral,no integrity,a person try to do the wrong things all the time.”small man “
Would blame others for whatever reasons,every bad things that happen is the fault of others,is the wrong doing of others,he(or her)is always on the right side,can never be wrong.This is “small man”.But that is not all.With Confucius teaching,”small man” can change,can transform,can also achieve Perfact Man status.This is the beauty of Confucius teaching,to me,the transformation from “small man”to Perfect Man through education is much more superior than “reborn Christian”.Reborn Christian blame his past wrong doing on the name of the DEVIL,it was the DEVIL that made him do all those nasty things,not his fault,really.But DEVIL may come back to lure him again,nobody knows when.But our Perfect Man is totally different.Once become Perfect Man,he needs to refine,needs to check his conduct,on a daily basic.Thus we have “I analyze and criticise myself three times a day.”
2500 years ago,Confucius showed us how to tell the difference between good from bad,angel from devil.Readers,do you think Confucius teaching still important in this modern times?
Student seeinginsea,to answer your question No1:Japanese,South Korean,Taiwanese,Singaporean educational system put Confucius teaching on No1,demanding students to achieve Perfect Man;England,USA,Canada,Australia system demand students to believe in GOD,to fear GOD,because those wrongdoers shall go to Hell,dogooders go to heaven.Both systems have a standard,a Norm,which lasts for 2000 years,has never change,and will never change,I believe.
Mainland Communist education system advocate class struggle,constantly demand students to look out for political enemies,and to be loyal to the current political leaders.But politic can,and do change in a matters of months,sometimes even days.There is no Norm,no standard.
Seeinginsea,do you still think Communist education system is superior?
To answer question No2: Some fairly advance African and South American civilisation had been annihilated by European colonization,such as once great Maya civilization.
Let me quote Confucius again: 君子求诸己，小人求诸人
Genghis Khan(1162-1227)Almost 1000 years had passed,yet the name Genghis Khan still stir up fear in many Europeans’s heart,his army annihilated many nations and civilisations in its path.And he was one of us.He was a Chinese HERO,according to People’s Republic(Wikipedia)
His grandson,Kublai khan,the Yuan emperor,reduced the Han population from 100 millions to less than 10 millions(Yes,Han was nearly completely wipped off from the surface of the earth.)Yuan society was divided into four class (1)Mongols,
(2)”color-eyed”,Central Asians,Uyghurs,Tibetans.
(3)Northern Han,Manchus,Jurchens
(4)Southerners,which means Han chinese within Southern Song,which had less than 10 millions left.
As any one can see,Han were put at the bottom of the social ladder.But not for long.
Yuan dynasty only lasted about 80 plus years.We all know the story of moon cake,needless to say.15-8 to kill all Mongols.Another number 8,any comments,readers?
I have try to answer your question as best as I can,seeinginsee,feel free to post me,I am more than willing to learn Confucius teaching with you,and other readers.
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子贡问政。子曰：“足食，足兵，民信之矣。”子贡曰：“必不得已而去，于斯三者何先？”曰：“去兵。”子贡曰：“必不得已而去，于期二者何先？”曰：“去食。自古皆有死，民无信不立。”
A student wanted to ask the basic conditions of managing a nation.Confucius said:”(1)sufficient food
(2)sufficient military
(3)the complete trust of the populace
Student asked again:”If one item has to be deleted among the three,which one has to go first?”
Confucius said:”Take off the military”
Student ask again:”If one more item has to be deleted among the two,which one has to go first?”
Confucius said:”Take off the food.Death can never be avoided,we all will die one day,when government lose the trust of its people,the game is over.”
万世师表
Asians all over the world(excluding Communist China)respect and revere Confucius,regard him as万世师表 ,translates Teacher of ten thousands generations. As a万世师表
,Confucius remains in the heart of billions of Asians,because Confucius teaching has lifted asian civilization onto higher levels,has become the binding cement of Asian society.
2000 years ago,Confucius ,short of saying “one man one vote”,stated that the trust,and the support of the populace,is the foundation of a viable,sustainable nation. .The trust of the population is the mandate,it has to be of top priority,more important than food and the military;without the people’s mandate, government do not exist,ruler do not exist.
Another humble question,for honorable Mr.Wen jia-bao:Do Chinese people trust your government? Do you have Chinese people’s mandate?
“民为贵,社稷次之,君为轻” 孟子
Meng Zi,(AD 372-289),a great Chinese philosopher,second only to Confucius,both in name and achievement.His teacher was one of the followers of Confucius.
Meng Zi’s teaching is just as important as Confucius teaching,though not as famous as Confucius in the West.But then the way the West get to know Confucius partly is due to the negative image projected by hollywood movies in the 50s and 60s.Back then nearly all the characters in hollywood movies were servants,coolies,gardeners,cooks,the bottom of the social ranking.And most the times,those movies character would utter :Confucius Said,in a funny,low kind of way.After Bruce Lee came along,things started to change.That is another subject.
民为贵，社稷次之，君为轻
What Meng Zi was saying is the people should be No1,next only come Nation,and Ruler,or Emperor,should only come last.And this forms the core of the Meng Zi teaching.
Meng Zi advocated that emperor,or ruler,should be there to love its people,and to protect the people’s rights.Readers, modern western nations such as Canada,Sweden,Australia all have legislations to give their citizens free medical care,free education(to some extent),free legal aids when they need it,and free consulate protection when overseas.Meng Zi,2000 years ago,had already foreseen it.
chan,have I answer your question?